{"id":1137,"date":"2013-05-19T09:11:41","date_gmt":"2013-05-19T07:11:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/carnicelli.eu\/?p=1137"},"modified":"2026-02-11T04:13:29","modified_gmt":"2026-02-11T04:13:29","slug":"comment-une-information-incomplete-est-un-argument-fallacieux","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/carnicelli.eu\/index.php\/2013\/05\/19\/comment-une-information-incomplete-est-un-argument-fallacieux\/","title":{"rendered":"Comment une information incompl\u00e8te devient un argument fallacieux."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fran\u00e7ois Hollande lors de son &nbsp;discours \u00e0 continu\u00e9 sur sa lanc\u00e9e, \u00e0 affirmer un argument qu&rsquo;utilise aussi la droite Fran\u00e7aise, dans son ensemble, pour justifier l&rsquo;augmentation de l&rsquo;\u00e2ge de la retraite.&nbsp;En effet, il affirme :&nbsp;\u00ab\u00a0L&rsquo;esp\u00e9rance de vie s&rsquo;allonge, il faut allonger la dur\u00e9e de cotisation\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je me disais de mani\u00e8re empirique, mais alors si l&rsquo;esp\u00e9rance de vie augmente, qu&rsquo;en est-il de notre capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00ab\u00a0profiter\u00a0\u00bb de notre retraite ? Et hier, j&rsquo;ai re\u00e7u le dernier num\u00e9ro de Science et Vie (juin 2013) et l\u00e0&#8230; J&rsquo;apprends que<strong> l&rsquo;esp\u00e9rance de vie, en bonne sant\u00e9, est en baisse ! <\/strong>Et cela \u00e7a change tout !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J&rsquo;entends l&rsquo;argument qui dit les travailleurs actifs financent la retraite des travailleurs qui ne sont plus actifs et c&rsquo;est l\u00e0 que se pose le probl\u00e8me. En effet le revenu cumul\u00e9 des travailleurs actifs devient insuffisant pour fiancer la retraite des travailleurs non actifs. Et apr\u00e8s envisag\u00e9 divers sc\u00e9narios, la politique peut alors trancher entre les diverses options qui sont&#8230; Faisons participer TOUS les revenus pour participer \u00e0 la guerre contre la pauvret\u00e9, et pour la solidarit\u00e9&#8230; Y aurait-il des personnes \u00ab\u00a0plus solidaires\u00a0\u00bb que les autres ? Bon ce n&rsquo;est pas mon propos, bien que je pense que cette voie n&rsquo;a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 assez visit\u00e9e&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Maintenant je reviens \u00e0 l&rsquo;argument qui affirme \u00ab\u00a0Travailler plus longtemps car esp\u00e9rance de vie plus longue\u00a0\u00bb. Mais de quoi parle-t-on ? Une esp\u00e9rance de vie avec la maladie d&rsquo;Alzheimer? Une esp\u00e9rance de vie clou\u00e9 dans son lit avec des probl\u00e8mes de dos ? Une esp\u00e9rance de vie dans une chambre d&rsquo;h\u00f4pital ? Une esp\u00e9rance de vie avec une maladie \u00e9volutive qui nous am\u00e8ne petit \u00e0 petit vers la mort ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais de qui se moque-t-on avec ces arguments ? Car les \u00e9tudes scientifiques en cours prouvent que en France si l&rsquo;esp\u00e9rance de vie est la plus importante en Europe avec une moyenne \u00e0 81,4 ans (pour les femmes), les m\u00eames statistiques nous placent en 9\u00e8me position avec une esp\u00e9rance de vie en bonne sant\u00e9 n&rsquo;exc\u00e9dant pas 65 ans (pour les m\u00eame femmes) !&nbsp;Il y a 4 maladies d\u00e9tiennent le record pour miner l&rsquo;esp\u00e9rance de vie en bonne sant\u00e9 :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>L&rsquo;Arthrose<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Le cancer du poumon<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>La maladie d&rsquo;Alzheimer<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>L&rsquo;insuffisance cardiaque<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">C&rsquo;est \u00e9tude portent sur 400 000 personnes&#8230; je vous laisse d\u00e9couvrir cette \u00e9tude sur Science et Vie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Alors messieurs les politiciens, votre argument est bien fallacieux !<\/strong> Partir \u00e0 la retraite \u00e0 65 ans c&rsquo;est pour la plupart des gens<strong> quitter la travail pour la maladie<\/strong>&#8230; Est-ce cela l&rsquo;avenir de la retraite ?&nbsp;La \u00ab\u00a0retraite\u00a0\u00bb c&rsquo;est bien comme son nom l&rsquo;indique le <em>\u00ab\u00a0retrait\u00a0\u00bb d&rsquo;une ressource us\u00e9e<\/em> pour le remplacement par une ressource neuve. <em>Comme on jette les vieilles piles usag\u00e9es<\/em>&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Alors \u00ab\u00a0<strong>qu&rsquo;un vieux qui meurt c&rsquo;est toute une biblioth\u00e8que qui dispara\u00eet<\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb (Proverbe Africain) quand on change de paradigme&#8230; Sommes-nous seulement, des ressources humaines, ou, des richesses humaines ? En effet, pour moi, nous prenons de la valeur avec le temps qui passe, par nos \u00e9checs et nos r\u00e9ussites, par l&rsquo;accumulation de toute l&rsquo;exp\u00e9rience valoris\u00e9e par notre analyse, et cela est vraiment le contraire de ce que l&rsquo;\u00e9conomie actuelle mondiale affirme, en nous traitant comme une ressource \u00e0 exploiter&#8230;&nbsp;A 50 ans, tu ne vaux plus rien&#8230; Car tu co\u00fbtes trop cher&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Alors, il va falloir r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir et agir&#8230;<strong>&nbsp;Rempla\u00e7ons les GRH (Gestion Ressources Humaines) en VRH (Valorisation des Richesses Humaines)<\/strong>.&nbsp;Le coaching va dans ce sens, et si nous en parlions ? 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